Handled+ Unban Request: Yugoboss

[YugoBoss]

Ingame name Yugoboss
SteamID STEAM_0:1:150712610

Ban reason Disqualifikation of the event
Unban reason
Hallo liebe Elite Hunterz Community,

leider muss ich mich auf diesem Wege über einen Thread bezüglich eines Vorfalls äußern. Mir wurde hierüber traurigerweise erst Tage später durch Dritte zuteil, dass ich für das Event ausgeschlossen gelte. Der zuständige Admin Havoc war leider ingame zu sehr verhindert Zombies zu beseitigen, um mir gleichzeitig hierüber Auskunft zu geben, daher der Thread unter "unban", wo ich ihn für am besten angebracht halte. Auf Anfrage konnte mich auch Admin Hail to the King nur auf das Forum verweisen. Dieser hat meinen Bruder sowie andere Spieler ständig aus Spaß geslappt, konnte mich vorhin aber auf Anfrage auch nicht teleportieren. Wenn ich aber dann auslogge um mich zu befreien und neu joine, werde ich des Respawns beschuldigt. Das Ergebnis dessen ist doch, dass hierfür entweder mehr Kompetenz geschaffen werden sollte oder eine Alternativlösung herangeführt werden sollte. Soviel mal vorab. Nun zu meinem eigentlichen Problem: mein Empfinden allem voran ist, dass man Spieler direkt informieren sollte, ehe sie über ihre Disqualifikation durch Dritte erfahren. Wie bereits erwähnt, war keiner der Admins kompetent genug mir schlussendlich den Disqualifikationsgrund zu nennen und bevor ich hierauf nur eine Antwort des Grundes erhalte, erbitte ich doch höflichst auch einen Nachweis hierüber - ich bin mir sicher, dass die Anschuldigungen ihren Ursprung bei dem Spieler dbb haben, mit dem ich bekannterweise in Konflikt stehe. Einige meiner Gedanken ließen mich über "Kartelle" etc nachdenken, das der ehemals EH blue sehr gut mit einigen EH Admins in Kontakt steht und womöglich eine privilegierte Behandlung genießt. Das sollte aber keinem Spieler auf diesem Server so ergehen. Und seien die Gründe tatsächlich so schlimm, wieso werden sie dann nicht öffentlich geteilt, sondern verborgen. Zudem bin ich mir sicher, dass wenn es Verstöße gegeben hat, diese, sofern sie denn schlimm sind, auch zu einem Bann führen würden, was aber nicht der Fall ist und mich dazu bewegt mich nun zu beschweren.
Ich bin nicht traurig über den potenziellen Vermögensverlust in Höhe von 25 Euro, geschissen auf das Geld, aber mir geht es um das Prinzip und ein einheitliches Spielgeschehen auf diesen Servern. Ich bin mir sicher, dass einige Admins der Deutschen Sprache mächtig sind und es ggf. für andere übersetzen können.
Letztendlich bleibt mir nichts weiter übrig, auf eine entgegenkommende Lösung und die Beweise zu warten. Ich bitte euch dies öffentlich zu halten, da ich vermute, es handle sich hier um Vergehen in der Grauzone die durch Freundschaften zu härteren Maßnahmen geführt haben!
Vielen Dank für euer offenes Ohr und ein schönes Ausklingen des Jahres 2018.

Freundlich grüßt euch
Pablo D.

 

[YugoBoss]

Ich meine natürlich das Jahr 2017, Pardon!

 

[NorthernLight]

Hello Dear Elite Hunterz Community,
Unfortunately, I have to comment on this way via a thread regarding an incident. Sadly enough, it was not until later on, through third parties, that I was granted the right to be excluded from the event. The responsible admin Havoc was unfortunately too inadequate to eliminate zombies to me at the same time to give information about this, so the thread under "unban", where I think he is best. On request Admin Hail to the King could only refer me to the forum. This one has my brother and other players constantly floated out of fun, but I could not teleport on request before also. But when I log out to free myself and joine again, I'm accused of respawning. The result of this is that either more competence should be created or an alternative solution should be introduced. So much in advance. Now for my real problem: my feeling is that you should inform players directly before they learn about their third party disqualification. As already mentioned, none of the admins was competent enough to finally call me the reason for disqualification and before I get just an answer to the reason, I politely ask for proof of this - I am sure that the allegations originated with the player dbb I know I'm in conflict with. Some of my thoughts made me think about "cartels", etc., that the former EH blue is very well in contact with some EH admins and possibly enjoys a privileged treatment. But that should not happen to any player on this server. And if the reasons are really so bad, then why they are not shared publicly, but hidden. I'm also sure that if there were any violations, they would cause a spell if they're bad, but that's not the case and it makes me complain.
I am not sad about the potential loss of assets amounting to 25 euros, shit on the money, but I'm concerned with the principle and a consistent gameplay on these servers. I am sure that some admins of the German language are powerful and can translate it for others if necessary.
Ultimately, I have no choice but to wait for an oncoming solution and the evidence. I ask you to keep this public, because I suspect that it is here about offenses in the gray area have led through friendships to tougher measures!
Thank you for your listening and a nice end to the year 2018.
Greetings from you
Pablo D.

 

[YugoBoss]

Thank you for the translation, Northern Light!

 

[NorthernLight]

Hallo, das war für die Admins, die kein Deutsch verstehen!

 

[Havoc]

Hey, the reason as to why you were disqualified is that you farmed afk's to gain an insane amount of points to easily reach rank 1/2 which is an unfair way to win the event.

you farmed this guy http://stats.elite-hunterz.info/hlstats.php?mode=playersessions&player=1191062
this guy as well http://stats.elite-hunterz.info/hlstats.php?mode=playersessions&player=1440960
and you can see proof here on your stats page http://stats.elite-hunterz.info/hlstats.php?mode=playerinfo&player=1447944

In other words you were exploiting the game to win in an unfair way, therefore we decided to disqualify you.

 

[YugoBoss]

Hello Havoc,
how do I start...? Well... with a question - is this really the argumental base you want to have a discussion with me? Are you serious?
Let's start with an example:
I am standing beside an AFK player - what should I do? Kill him? - we see the result: I got disqualified!
Ok then my other option (there are only 3) - I can stand beside the afk and walk away. Ahhh no I am a teamer then, and do really break the server rules. NO OPTION!
3. I can wait till the player is back and watch him with a distance - Ok the practice shows everyone of us that another player will kill him instead --> no Option.
Result: I can't do anything without getting shit to hear from you. I am sure with the word "shit", my example shows us.
Maybe another admin can tell me, if there's another option, but I don't think so... *sad brave up*
Now I'll move on to your response - apart of this, that your answer was the biggest bullshit a human ever said, since 1933-1945 another one did in Germany, you do not even take a point to the half of my messages in my Opening Thread.
How the fuck can you say based on this links, that it was me who killed the Afk's and that I am the only one who may kill AFK people?
And how another person already metioned on the Forum: "were you maybe limited to think about afk people before opening this event?"
You as an Admin, have you ever played 1 round on the V3 server without AFK people? As an Admin you should have, but your arguments don't say so..
In Germany we say "wer sucht, der findet" - and that's what you do - you are searching a reason to get me out of the event and out of the pricing, on any way!
You couldn't find a rulebreaking of me, so you did this shit - did you think about before you did this?
I know that my brother is not always cool to play with, but I did really try to get a good rank without breaking any rule - do you know how sad it is for sb. sitting hours daily on the computer to aim a target and then getting stopped by sb. like you for doing nothing?
I am sure that nobody of the other admins say sth. to you, because you're the Initiator of the event and a friend of many admins. In my eyes these people are "Mitläufer", similar like the Nazi-germans who said after the war, that they had no other option.
We can discuss this with another 500 posts, you won't change your decision, because you are to proud.
Did you take a look on the playstile of Darkfire, I am superman or MaeM? (sorry for naming you on this point guys :/ ) these guys do nearly only play the V3 server and killed hundreds of AFK's aswell, but you don't care about them, they are not under the top 5 pricers. If you disqualify one person, you have to disqualify everyone who does so.
I do fuck your system, "Ich bin dir ein Dorn im Auge" belonging to the top 5 and that's why you disqualify me.
Your life will punish you, I personally can't right now. God is my witness, that i didn't do anything wrong so far on the EH servers.
Thanks for your attention - hope you eat my words and notice them very well.
I wrote this in english so you can not jump over my sentences anymore - no proof, no reason, just unfair behaviour of you.
I wish Phanty or Kobi or sb. else of the retired Elite could read this, you would never even try to do such stuff.
I played this server years before you created your Forum account, I never felt so repressed like you did.
My brother won Arma 3 on an event years ago, he did not take the price, he played for fun and prestige - things you do not understand.
I will no longer stay on your Niveau... sad enough that i have to write such a statement.

Yugoboss / Pablo D.

 

[Havoc]

that was a whole lot of nonsense.

Killing afk's is allowed but you exploited it by being on the server early in the morning only killing afk's over and over to gain points, exploiting the game is against the rules and that's what you did, i did not disqualify you without asking our leader (Niko) about it first and he agreed to disqualify you.

If any admin think he was wrongfully disqualified feel free to reply to this thread now and we can take it up to discussion.

 

[YugoBoss]

I do not remember playing after 2 am and before 10 am, I am not sure where I can find the proof, but everyone who knows can see it, that I am right. So your response was anonsense and a lie aswell - Isn't it dbb who is very often online till 3 or 4 am in the morning, after I am already sleeping. Again bullshit you say, I did not play in the morning I am completely not a morning person, cmon be more creative, what a bullshit again.

 

[Havoc]

Okay i just checked some logs and i was wrong, it wasn't in the morning you played but i got these stats of you heavily farming afk's to gain points

L 12/21/2017 - 22:56:53: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<21909><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<21809><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/21/2017 - 23:05:03: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<21909><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<21809><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/21/2017 - 23:34:22: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<21909><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<21809><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/21/2017 - 23:36:00: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<21909><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<21809><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death
L 12/22/2017 - 01:00:54: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<22155><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<22093><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/22/2017 - 01:04:01: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<22155><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<22093><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/22/2017 - 01:04:23: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<22155><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<22093><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/22/2017 - 01:06:13: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<22155><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<22093><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "sg550" (headshot)
L 12/22/2017 - 01:06:25: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<22155><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<22093><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "sg550"
L 12/24/2017 - 22:45:07: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<28648><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<28674><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/24/2017 - 22:56:55: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<28648><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<28674><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/24/2017 - 22:57:51: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<28648><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<28674><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 01:07:49: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<28927><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<28674><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:44:40: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:45:04: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:45:23: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:45:45: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:46:38: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:46:52: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:22: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:39: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:48:33: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:49:08: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:50:11: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:51:18: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:51:34: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:51:49: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:52:54: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:56:28: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 14:57:35: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 14:58:07: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 15:00:13: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 15:01:30: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:01:44: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:20: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:40: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:00: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:51: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:04:27: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:05:19: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "RAMBO first blood<29921><[U:1:146810503]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
Yugo -> Idee
L 12/22/2017 - 14:55:49: "๖ۣۜYugoBoss<23036><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "Idee<22931><[U:1:31739559]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 14:44:50: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:45:45: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:46:32: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:46:48: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:02: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:16: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:31: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:47:47: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:48:46: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:50:37: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:50:55: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:51:52: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:52:40: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:52:55: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 14:58:24: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 15:00:19: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><CT>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><TERRORIST>" with "g3sg1" (headshot)
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:11: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:23: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:37: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:02:54: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:09: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:23: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:43: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:03:55: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:04:15: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
L 12/25/2017 - 15:05:14: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"

There's often barely 20 seconds between your kills on those afk's so you clearly stay near spawn and infect them as soon as they respawn which is interesting since they have to be killed by a ct as well so you have surely teamed with ct's where you let them kill the afk's after you infect them so you can easily infect them again when they respawn, i assume you did that with your brothers which can be seen here that croboss instantly killed the afk's that you infected right after you infected them.

2017-12-25 14:52:51 Action I received a points bonus of 11 for triggering "God Like (12+ kills)". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v32017-12-25 14:52:46 Kill I killed Idee with sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:52:30 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:52:30 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:59 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:59 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:43 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:43 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:39 Kill I killed Monty Python with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:39 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:26 Kill I killed RAMBO first blood with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:26 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:16 Kill I killed Idee with sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:09 Kill I killed RAMBO first blood with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:09 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:00 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:00 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:46 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:46 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:34 Kill I killed RAMBO first blood with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:34 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:13 Kill I killed ajdghkasdhl with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:13 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:09 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:50:09 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:49:55 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3

Practically.

L 12/25/2017 - 14:51:52: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
2017-12-25 14:51:59 Kill I killed Idee with a headshot from sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
2017-12-25 14:51:59 Action I received a points bonus of 1 for triggering "Headshot". Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3
L 12/25/2017 - 14:52:40: "[вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29860><[U:1:301425221]><TERRORIST>" killed "Idee<29781><[U:1:31739559]><CT>" with "zombie_claws_of_death"
2017-12-25 14:52:46 Kill I killed Idee with sg550. Zombie Hunting V3 by ElitE HunterZ |All Weapons|Rank|Respawn| zm_little_italy_v3


Yourr brother instantly killed those that you infected which clearly indicates that you didn't try to infect your brother so you were teaming and farming afk kills.

 

[YugoBoss]

That's not the first time you are wrong, but please go on creating your own view of the situation... I'll go on giving you some impulses to lead your mind in the right way...
Have you ever played on the Little Italy map? After that, i am sure you didn't... Let me describe you the Gameplay on that map:
There is a roof, full of autosnipers and there is 1 Spawn, all around there is the roof, so the Zombies are on a "Präsentierteller".
And of course i am not a dumb player, as a Zombie i litterally do not show up there or even try to get on the roof to infect these snipers, there is no chance for the Zombies on this map to get up and kill the snipers, every idiot knows this. So if i am a Zombie, i do hide myself in the canalization, under the spawn, that no sniper can hit me. And yeah you can believe me or not, every round is the same on this map.
In the canalization you can reload your hp and watch out at the ground under the roofs. I didnt know that it is a crime, to kill the humans i see there.
And now to my brother - he as a human, like 80% of the other human on this map try to get on the roof at this map and snipe all zombies from this roof.
Please go 1 time at the V3 when this map is beeing played and watch it yourself, there is no doubt that i may lie on you.
Or better, spectate Darkfire or I am Superman or many other players - they do the same.
I have no problem to get you in the gameserver practice, if you don't do it or don't have the time to make it yourself.

maybe another admin will give a response on my first big english text under this Thread at 16:25 PM - all i learned of your answers so far is that you're "aus den Fingern saugen" your arguments.
Deine Luft wird immer dünner - mach nur weiter so, bis die Blase platzt.

 

[Dataworm]

Killing afk players is somehow part of the game and if there are not many other players around it isn't his fault. So I think disqualification for that alone isn't fair. But if there was some kind of teaming involved that is a completely different story.
Assuming your brother was really on that roof: If the roof was full of snipers at that spot there were probably several snipers killing those afk zombies all the time. Furthermore I am wondering why you didn't die when there have been several snipers shooting into that corner all the time... Maybe your brother decided to not attack you so he can also farm kills...
Of course I am just considering different scenarios, I got too less information to judge on this.

 

[Dataworm]

Maybe we should consider about a mechanism to detect afk players and somehow avoid scoring on players that are afk.

 

[Markodeluxe]

Teaming would be another thing and a reason for ban, without dubt - I played there with my brother and as you know i was a Sniper sometimes - i can say the reason i didn't shoot my brother and other moving Zombies first is, that it is easier to kill a not moving Zombie first. But i guess the other Sniper People beside me thought and did the same, so he could survive that long. We stay fair although we are brothers, not doing any jokes like knifing up the mate on a camper spot or sth like this, but what does it help if somebody wants to have you out.
As an extra information - in the kill logs you can see that sometimes we do even kill each other, we do not team.

 

[Dataworm]

Unless we can't show that they were really teaming, I would consider the following:
I don't really follow those events that has something to do with stats/ranks. But I am quite sure that there was some price for the best ranked players. So when the event is over I suggest we check the best ranked players for this kind of unfair playing. If YugoBoss or his brother should be on one of the top ranks, we can try to count or estimate the number of these extreme afk kills and substract it from their result. It wouldn't be a perfect solution but at least they still have a chance to win but don't take advantage out of those afk kill farms.

 

[Melisa]

Killing afk players is somehow part of the game and if there are not many other players around it isn't his fault. So I think disqualification for that alone isn't fair. But if there was some kind of teaming involved that is a completely different story.
Assuming your brother was really on that roof: If the roof was full of snipers at that spot there were probably several snipers killing those afk zombies all the time. Furthermore I am wondering why you didn't die when there have been several snipers shooting into that corner all the time... Maybe your brother decided to not attack you so he can also farm kills...
Of course I am just considering different scenarios, I got too less information to judge on this.

I agree with Dataworm, I see no rule that says that it’s not allowed to kill AFKs, I would do the same if there was not many players online, I mean there’s not really much of a choice there. But if he did team then that should be the reason for disqualification and not killing AFKs.

Regards,
Melisa

 

[Nikooo777]

First of all, admins and non admins, stay off this thread, if you want to discuss the rules of the event and how we judge players please do so on slack or on our private forum, this is a thread where we state facts, not opinions.

Second. We explicitly wrote the following rule in the event:

as a community we also reserve the rights to disqualify any player for whatever reason we deem right.

Because it's not the first time in 9 years that we do events and there have been previous players doing the exact same thing.

It's not forbidden to kill AFK players and it's completely fine, what is NOT allowed is to exploit it to win prizes during an event for which everyone else plays fair.
We've been keeping an eye on you for the duration of the event and we've received complaints by other players that were playing fair about how this farming process was a joke.
I do agree with them and it's for that reason that I said we would disqualify you from winning the event. It's completely unfair for all those players out there playing the game normally to be taken over by a player which finds loopholes in our rules.

I hope you understand that. It's not fun for us, for the others and for you. Everyone knows this is bending rules, there is no need to state it anywhere.

Best regards,
Niko

 

[YugoBoss]

Hello Niko,
thanks for everyone on commenting and discussing on this, not an easy thread for sure.
All in all, i can understand other players who didn't get their points on this probably easier way - but it was not forbidden.
Nobody toldm me after all these days, that my playstile is against the "fair play" - so i did not stop. I don't have a problem making my points on a normal way and I am sure i could've get a well rank without the "afk farm".
What makes me sad, is the fact that I was going on playing without getting a warning or something similar, it is nowhere in the rules so how dare I know, that this could lead to a disqualification?
Sb could've said it after 2 or 3 days, not after 10+ days with a direct disqualification, what makes my 2+ days playtime useless. What did I now play for?
Please change something or warn a player next time, so discussions like this aren't necessary anymore.
Btw i spent a lot of time now writing about my view on the Forum.
A last thing I want to add - before you start writing a lie about me Havoc, think about your words first instead of trying to ruin my Image with such idiotic arguments.
I spit on such behaviour.

Greets
Pablo D.

 

[Dataworm]

If any admin think he was wrongfully disqualified feel free to reply to this thread now and we can take it up to discussion.

Just wanna mention that we were actually invited to join and discuss it here!

 

[Nikooo777]

I would like to add the cherry on the top here. Thanks to my SPA team for wasting their time in digging through the logs:

V1
L 12/21/2017 - 16:31:27: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24627><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 339 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 16:32:04: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24651><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 16:58:00: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24654><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 17:02:21: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24654><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 1625 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 17:21:08: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24722><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 18:29:51: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24785><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 18:38:34: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24785><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 293 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 18:52:13: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<24946><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 19:21:02: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25033><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 451 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 19:21:17: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25053><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 19:30:39: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25053><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 254 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 19:35:52: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25100><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/21/2017 - 21:05:01: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25267><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 25 HP] disconnected!
L 12/21/2017 - 21:05:34: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25299><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/22/2017 - 00:39:07: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25643><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 1018 HP] disconnected!
L 12/22/2017 - 00:55:20: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<25645><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/22/2017 - 14:28:53: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26045><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/22/2017 - 14:44:59: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26045><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 262 HP] disconnected!
L 12/22/2017 - 14:57:13: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26196><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/22/2017 - 20:49:25: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26875><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/22/2017 - 20:54:16: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26875><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 3922 HP] disconnected!
L 12/22/2017 - 20:59:55: ๖ۣۜYugoBoss<26901><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/24/2017 - 13:44:20: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29597><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/24/2017 - 13:47:45: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29597><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 1540 HP] disconnected!
L 12/24/2017 - 14:07:20: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<29837><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/30/2017 - 00:57:31: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<6983><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game
L 12/30/2017 - 00:58:52: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<6983><[U:1:301425221]><> [alive T 191 HP] disconnected!
L 12/30/2017 - 00:59:15: [вн]๖ۣۜYugoBoss<6985><[U:1:301425221]><> joined the game

clearly rejoining is against our rules and it seems like you've done that plenty of times too, this doesn't actually substitute you other wrongdoing, it just underlines how prone you are to bending the rules in your preferences.
We're not giving you a ban for that either, we'll just let you know that we really enjoy legit players and we give prizes to them, but some just don't deserve our money.