Unban Request: [»eX.] KARMATE-san

[karamate]

Name: [»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①

SteamID: STEAM_0:0:10787423

Ban reason: Rejoin

Unban reason: Hallo Admins

ich habe jetzt grade versucht auf den Server zu joinen und leider bin ich nicht draufgekommen.

Wie ich sehe wurde ich wegen Rejoining gebannd ?

Ich habe kein Rejoin gemacht, wurde nichtmal verwarned oder sowas deswegen bitte ich um einen Unbann.


lg

Karmate

 

[Sheyla]

Alcatrawia ist der Admin, der dich gebannt hat fürs re-joinen und das für 2 Tage.

Hier ist dein Ban: http://bans.elite-hunterz.info/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:10787423&Submit

 

[Alca]

I am the admin, who banned you and I cant understand german. I ask you to write the same again for english

 

[Sheyla]

Translated:

I was trying to join the Server, I wasn't able to join unfortunately.

I've seen I've been banned for rejoining?

I did not rejoin, didn't even get warned so I am asking for an unban.

 

[Alca]

Yes you rejoined today, how i can warn you when you left to avoid dead and joined back and left then again. That doesn't help you, i still saw your rejoin.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=530902893
You further know that rejoining is forbidden, you have had many bans about it. So the slay or kick doesn't help you to get that point that it is rule that you aren't able to break.

Ban stays and I REALLY hope now you don't do that again!

Alca

 

[karamate]

Okay, I will switch to English.
I cant remember that I was rejoining or sth. And if I was rejoining, I didnt get a warning from you to stop doing this. I didnt rejoin to the server, I wont do such of this mistakes. I didnt understand the real reason of the banning, when did I rejoin, and why did I get a rejoin ban without the knowledge that I was rejoining in the view of you? Are you meaning the time where I just left the server by clicking on the same server for disconnecting from the server? But I didnt join the server after disconnecting.

I thought here are admins, who can speak german too, I am sorry. The time is going on, admins need to understand the language german too...

 

[Alca]

The proof shows you left and rejoined back. Proof prove that you are lying now. And you said you didnt get warning to stop this? You have had as much warnings as your bans are and the lately ban about your rejoin was too warning to not do that again.

And ofcourse here can be admins that can't understand german. English is the head language.

Alca

 

[karamate]

Which proof, please? I want to see then the proof, which you are meaning. Please show it to me. If here is an argument against your ones, we need the third person, who should choose now the decision. This discussion cant be finished by banning only. Pro and Contra arguments ! It is not important that I have had as much warnings as my bans, I dont want to remind you of the rules. The rules indicate that every player need a warning before getting banned without the considerationof past bans. Don't disapprove of rules.

Here are many german players too, who cant speak then the head language English. Just a thoughtlessness to say only English.

Peace Y Karmate

 

[Nikooo777]

this is the log

L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:08: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<701><[U:1:21574846]><CT>" say "haah"
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:33: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<701><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:33: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<779><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:34: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<779><[U:1:21574846]><>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:34: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<779><[U:1:21574846]><>" STEAM USERID validated

This shows us 2 things:


1: you disconnected as zombie while alive, doing so was high likely to avoid being killed.
2: you rejoined, and then disconnected right away




edit:


this happens quite often

L 10/01/2015 - 00:37:37: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<21579><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/01/2015 - 01:37:47: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<21579><[U:1:21574846]><CT>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/01/2015 - 21:18:43: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23151><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/01/2015 - 21:59:28: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23151><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/01/2015 - 23:03:58: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23348><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/01/2015 - 23:23:32: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23348><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/01/2015 - 23:53:28: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23448><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/01/2015 - 23:57:53: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<23448><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/02/2015 - 19:03:16: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<24874><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/02/2015 - 19:13:46: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<118><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/02/2015 - 19:13:46: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<24874><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/02/2015 - 19:13:47: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<118><[U:1:21574846]><>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/02/2015 - 20:04:36: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<25015><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/02/2015 - 20:10:27: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<25015><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/02/2015 - 21:01:05: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<25140><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/02/2015 - 22:09:20: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<25140><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 14:49:59: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26594><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 15:22:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26594><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 15:22:18: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26680><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 15:26:46: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26680><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 19:28:46: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27199><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 19:59:10: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27199><[U:1:21574846]><CT>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 21:34:59: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27511><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 22:15:12: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27511><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 22:15:12: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<316><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 23:10:51: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27747><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 23:11:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27747><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 23:11:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<9634><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27006"
L 10/03/2015 - 23:17:26: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27764><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/03/2015 - 23:17:26: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<9634><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 00:08:48: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27764><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 00:08:48: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<349><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 00:17:41: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27881><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 00:49:25: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<27881><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 01:26:36: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<28024><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 02:38:55: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<28024><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 15:51:12: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29004><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 16:20:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29004><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 16:20:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29073><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 16:20:21: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29073><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "no rejoin")
L 10/04/2015 - 16:20:27: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29074><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 18:10:29: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29074><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/04/2015 - 18:52:14: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29411><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/04/2015 - 21:40:32: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<29411><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:00:39: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30832><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:03:24: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30832><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:10:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30848><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:24:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<145><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:24:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30848><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:24:10: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<145><[U:1:21574846]><>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:37:02: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30893><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:48:20: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30893><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:51:08: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30917><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 16:10:35: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30917><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 17:06:52: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31090><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 18:19:18: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31090><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 20:02:38: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31521><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 21:21:18: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31521><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 21:29:23: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31699><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 21:30:21: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31699><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 22:53:37: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31918><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 23:30:36: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<31918><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 15:06:35: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<137><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 15:56:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<137><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 15:56:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<241><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 16:20:49: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<241><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 16:23:36: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<297><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 16:23:44: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<297><[U:1:21574846]><CT>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 16:23:44: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<298><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 16:30:39: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<298><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 16:30:39: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<312><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 16:34:35: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<312><[U:1:21574846]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 18:34:25: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<583><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 18:52:08: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<583><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 19:23:26: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<701><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:33: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<701><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:33: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<779><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 19:56:34: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<779><[U:1:21574846]><>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/06/2015 - 21:07:45: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<957><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/06/2015 - 21:07:46: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<957><[U:1:21574846]><>" disconnected (reason "Sie wurden von diesem Server gebannt, weitere Informationen auf http://bans.elite-hunterz.info")

I would like to precise one thing tho.

It is true that rules state that admins have to warn, however for players like you, that have been in our servers for years, this doesn't apply because obviously you're going to abuse the system by breaking the rules until you get a warning, and then behave, hence for some offenses admins can and will act without warning

 

[Alca]

Karmate, i think that proof clearly shows your rejoin and that Niko's proof shows even better. And yes there is rule that you have to warn before banning. That rule is for guys, who doesn't have yet bans about the same reason. You have couple previous bans about rejoin/leaving to avoid dead ,and I can easily say that you have seen this rule said by an admin: "Rejoining/leaving to avoid dead lead to punishment."
You should be glad that the ban is only 2 days, it could be longer as Niko's log prove it.

And I didn't say only english. I said english is the head language, otherwise you can speak german.

Alca

 

[karamate]

Hey again,
If u guys had looked correctly on the time and what I was doing at this time, you could understand what I was meaning on the written comments. You are firmly convinced that I was rejoining, but look at that following now.

2015-10-06 21:07:46 Disconnect I left the game. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_rush_final_2
2015-10-06 21:07:45 Connect I connected to the server. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_rush_final_2

This shows, that I never joined a team, and that I never was a zombie. I just connecting and disconnecting. The time there is only, where I just left the server by clicking on the same server for disconnecting from the server. I have tried today this again to show you guys, that you have a wrong thought.

2015-10-07 15:40:19 Disconnect I left the game. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_eh_fast_final
2015-10-07 15:40:18 Connect I connected to the server. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_eh_fast_final

After I was clicking on the server for joining to server, I was canceling the process to disconnecting from an another server. Guys, you can try it too if you dont believe me. When I connected to the server, I can avoid dead lead, because I never joined a team? You can see that on "NIKO's and my quotes too". And the fact is after I "rejoined (in the view of you)", why did I get the ban after ca. 20 mins? That shows too, that the admin was unsure about the situation and tried to understand that, so it was taking so much time. But he gots the wrong thought after 20 mins!

The times here are not corecctly too? How fast should I be to disconnecting and joining a team and to left again in 1 sec? Think about the loading scene and the new round scene etc.

2015-10-06 19:56:34 Disconnect I left the game. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_cbble_eh_v7
2015-10-06 19:56:33 Team I joined team "TERRORIST" (Zombies). Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_cbble_eh_v7
2015-10-06 19:56:33 Disconnect I left the game. Zombie Hunting by ElitE HunterZ |FastDL, SSD powered, HLstatsX| zm_cbble_eh_v7

http://stats.elite-hunterz.info/hlstats.php?mode=playerhistory&player=7494

Sorry, I misunderstood the language situation.
Karmate

 

[Alca]

Karmate, i banned you from web, when i stopped playing css, i wasnt unsure about that situation. And your ban's reason is rejoin/LEAVING to avoid dead. The proof clearly shows you left as zm, there was alot of cts and couple of zombies. One guy is saying rejoiner too. The ban still stays.

Alca

 

[Havoc]

I just want to say that due to the respawn, almost all players leave while they're alive, either as human or zombie. But ofcourse if you rejoin to avoid death as in this situation where "from what alca says", only a few zombies were left, then it's not okay.

Also from what i can see above, you often leave and join a few minutes later, i bet you do that to avoid death, and save rank.

L 10/03/2015 - 15:22:09: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26594><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/03/2015 - 15:22:18: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<26680><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:03:24: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30832><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:10:50: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30848><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"
L 10/05/2015 - 15:48:20: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30893><[U:1:21574846]><TERRORIST>" disconnected (reason "Disconnect by user.")
L 10/05/2015 - 15:51:08: "[»eX.] KARMATE-san ⑥①<30917><[U:1:21574846]><>" connected, address "IP:27005"


It's right that you left just after you reconnected at the time Alca banned you, but that doesn't change the fact that you left to avoid death.

The ban is only 2 days, and it looks fair.

Make sure to play fair in the future, do not leave/rejoin to avoid death.

 

[Nikooo777]

I would add that from now on you should use the disconnect button instead of troubling the admins by fake-rejoining the server causing our monitor plugin to go crazy on you...

I understand that you didn't rejoin completely but we still believe that the admin might be right when saying you left to avoid death. The ban is expiring today anyway.