Abuse Report: Dhoudz

Woozu

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Admin's Name Dhoudz

Time and date when they banned me at this point of time: 2026-06-07 16:44:29

Server css zm

Description
The admin falsely banned me for the reason "hyperscroll/macro" while i was playing on the server. Gameplay-wise I was a zombie at the moment and tried to kill humans by bhopping through a vent, not succeeding due to a strong defensive effort by said humans and then had my gameplay disrupted due to a sudden ban after i was respawning. The admin didn't warn me or asked any questions before banning me.

After appealing the ban and explaining that i didn't use a macro or hyperscroll, I thought I could be unbanned and continue my evening session on the server. However, Dhoudz reply an hour later was absolutely weird. As an admin, he seems to not know what a hyperscroll actually is, saying:


"hyperscroll is not a button or a special function of the mouse. It is a paraphrase for spamming the jump button without a break for a longer period.
This is against the rules."


An explanation that's fully faulty, and even more concering a what i think faulty interpretation of the rules, as he is saying that "spamming the jump button without a break for a longer period of time is against the rules", while not accusing me of using a macro and also saying that he is not talking about a hyperscroll mouse function. Basically he said that spamming the jump button without a break, even without cheats or without an unfair helper-tool, is against the server rules. But that's not in the rules (obviously), that say 'no cheats and no macros/hotkeys/scripts'. Yes, if somebody manages to spam jump without a break for multiple seconds, that COULD be a sign of somebody cheating, but it is also doable without cheats by just using your fingers and hand. Which i did, i didn't use any macro and my mouse doesn't have a hyperscroll feature built in so that my mousewheel scrolls freely. Basically banned for a day without any reason.


In my next message i tried to explain the absurdity of the ban then, that neither of the two reasons "hyperscroll/macro" are the case and i even went ahead and explained what a hyperscroll actually, including an image of a google search and its ai response. His reply was even more obscure than the first, saying that me going over my mousewheel with my whole finger is just a "more difficult way to hyperscroll". Comparing a fully legitimate, long finger stroke (that can last like 2 seconds) on the mousewheel, to using a freely spinning mousewheel that can spin for 10+ seconds with a singular flick, a tool thats against the server rules.


I don't understand why i was banned now, since the reason is 'hyperscroll', but his explaination on why he banned me would generally not be understood as hyperscroll by the counter strike bhopping community. So again, i feel like i was just banned for no reason, and my evening session on the server ruined by a false 1 day ban, something i think was a full abuse of power. I'm shocked to see an admin who doesn't know what a hyperscroll is, especially if they issued 5 bans of this kind in the last 2 months (hopefully valid ones). Another admin in another thread explained a hyperscroll exactly how I explain it multiple times: "A normal mouse averages around 3–6, while anything 10+ indicates an unlocked mouse wheel / hyperscroll."

https://forum.elite-hunterz.com/threads/cs-s-all-cs-go-zm-protest-a-punishment-elite-edger.15577/#post-117027


You were in my opinion not only incompetent to ban players for hyperscroll, since you dont even know what it actually is, nor do i think you are competent to actually research and read what a ban appealer is saying, as i explained it more than enough, actually embedding said image in my thread. So again, I was false banned for a day and even when appealing forced to wait it out, ruining my Sunday evening session.

The thread im referencing is the following one, i go into even more detail on how what I am doing is probably not a bannable offense and the full messages and its history is able to be viewed there: https://forum.elite-hunterz.com/threads/cs-s-all-cs-go-zm-protest-a-punishment-elite-edger.15577/#post-117027

If there are any concerns if what i did in the demo was achieved without any form of tool or cheat, let me know and i can add the excerpt of my handshow video here that shows me doing the movement live under supervision, or i could go ahead and film another new video that further shows how it works.

Thanks for reading(?)

Reporting an abuse is a serious matter. Do you hold all the proofs requested for an abuse request? Yes
 
Reporting an abuse is a serious matter. Do you hold all the proofs requested for an abuse request? Yes
And where is your proof?
 
For the abuse of course.

et me explain: Neither banning somebody for using a macro or hyperscroll nor denying an unban request is considered abuse. Read here t see some examples of abuse: Link

To be honest: All I see at the moment is an admin doing his job and a player that isnt taking it well. Just like I saw it a hundred times before this case.

In short: I need a proof for an abuse. If its word against word I will always believe our trusted admins.
 
I see, give me a bit of time to do that with screenshots etc. for better viewing (even though i would have thought the explanation and reference threads were enough)
 
Here is a more easy to read message of somewhat the same i wrote above in the initial message (probably a few points less detailed). i have added screenshots of what was said in my unban request for more reference if needed.


Your reply, somewhat, confused me just now as well Easy, i figure you didnt really understand the main points as to what the abuse is. so let me be more clear, in a better structure:

1. the main abuse is dhoudz banning me for a day for "hyperscroll/macro", and that falsely.

2. the second 'abuse', but i would rather call this just 'report of the admin', is that he didn't know the word he banned me for, which is what an hyperscroll is. what i'm reporting here is that he shouldn't be able to ban people if he doesnt even properly know what the reason he banned me for even is (again, the reason on sourcebans is "hyperscroll/macro). I'm not saying that dhoudz isn't fit as admin in general, i think they probably do a lot of good calls whenever someone teamkills, maybe even for hyperscrollers/macro users when they get flagged by the anticheat, but dhoudz not themselves knowing what a hyperscroll is, just imo doesnt make a fit admin for that matter. proof screenshots referencing to this will follow.

3. the third, another 'report of the admin', is imo just how the unban request went, badly imo. i made everything clear in my first message what this was about. i denied both hyperscrolling and macro usage, and then even explained that i do long mousewheel strokes. Then 2. came in that dhoudz didn't know what an hyperscroll is and said something fully wrong. and then when trying to discuss this and backing it up with an online research that it's indeed a mouse feature, they kept denying it without doing research themselves it seems, otherwise they would have agreed to what i had told him. this held on till their last reply, which again i think is just a bad trait to have, especially when i show clear screenshots and all the other sources that explain what a hyperscroll is. also something you still haven't clarified, one of the main points of this whole discussion what an hyperscroll is.


now that i introduced the 3 main points, i will start with 1.:


1.

Now this one is pretty easy (not meaning you though xd), or hard, depending on how much proof of me not having "hyperscrolled/macroed" any jumps in the demo is required for you to be sufficient. I have already said i dont use a macro nor a hyperscroll (my mouse doesnt have the feature), it does look like a hyperscroll because of the continuous spam of jump inputs for a good 2 seconds maybe per jump try. but as i have shown in the video i just attached to the unban request, its just a creative way on how I scroll my mousewheel for such long vents. i scroll my mousewheel with my whole finger so that jumps keep getting through, that way i can bhop 'every single time' i hit the ground and not lose as much speed. i have showed that to Niko a year ago in my live handshow, he also asked to see what im doing again but didnt say anything else, it's a biomechanical skill anybody can do on their mouse as well.
Tell me if that is enough proof, i can do that preeetty much every time, and i could show it privately once more as well. but its not a macro nor a hyperscroll, and i still was banned for 1 day, so a false ban. not really an unfair "rampage abuse" but false bans can not happen like this, and it just came without warning and not too much proof itself, you said so yourself, here in cyan.


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and this is the proof video that i dont hyperscroll/macro the jumps.





2.


this is the remark on how dhoudz didnt know themself what a hyperscroll is exactly, i dont think an admin should ban somebody for something they themselves dont know. but furthermore, dhoudz explaining it completely wrongly.


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in the screenshot i explain the whole situation and also briefly what a hyperscroll is.




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this was dhoudz response. the yellow marked sentence shows how they themselves didnt know exactly what a hyperscroll is, since they deny that its a mouse feature. which in itself is not a problem but as i explained above in 1. i dont think they should be banning for such reasons then if they dont know the term, after all i wasnt even flagged by the anticheat for it.
the blue part shows dhoudz saying something that to me doesnt make sense, since its not against the rules. due to him not knowing what a hyperscroll is, he ended up saying that spamming jump itself for a longer period of time is against the rules. why would spamming jump continuously for a longer period of time be against the rules, if it's done legitimately without hyperscroll or a macro, when you dont use a tool like that its not against the rules after all. this is obviously somewhat of a misconception, since seeing someone do something like that is indeed an indication of somebody using a hyperscroll or macro, but its not the full proof, you can pull that off also without cheats, i do for example. but an admin saying something what i think is faulty since its not against the rules in an unban appeal, is bad. false exlusion from the server is terrible. and with a message like that, saying that spamming jump like that is against the rules even without cheats, is something where as a player you cant even debate anymore, since its an indication of a potential cheater, that is made to a rule that is prohibited, which is just wrongly spoken. and you can see my struggle with that nonsensical message in the reply to dhoudz.



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this is how i am completely confused about what dhoudz just told me




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and once again, dhoudz doesnt know what a hyperscroll is. a hyperscroll is a mouse feature that lets the mousewheel spin freely, you either enable it and hyperscroll or you disable it and dont hyperscroll. but when my mouse doesnt even have the feature (its i think a roccat burst v2 [pro?], and it only has some dpi button and some side buttons that i dont use), i cant hyperscroll, and there is no "more difficult method" to hyperscroll, im just scrolling my mouse with a long stroke. and this just made the entire unban appeal... impossible, if you are banned for something that you dont use, but the admin doesnt even know exactly what it is themselves.





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and well here it is again in his next reply, i forgot to mark the text in cyan, but i dont really think that matters in this screenshot xd...
what i did and do was not hyperscrolling, its an indicator yes but i didnt use anything as said in the proof video in 1.
thats finished 2. onto 3.





3.


number 3 was as introduced above about how dhoudz didnt manage to change his mind on what a hyperscroll is, even after i explained it 4 or 5 times, and even sending online responses and videos, just for dhoudz to not change his thoughts anyway. there is a general understanding about what a hyperscroll is, so hyperscroll for this server probably, and also should mean that you use a mouse feature that lets the mousewheel spin freely, giving an unfair advantage to players who dont have that on their own mouse (i dont have hyperscroll for example). thats whats generally understood as hyperscroll by most css community servers, most css players and even someone in the SourceJump discord who has developer role, who then linked me a video with said free-spin mousewheel feature.


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sorry for the size, thats a screenshot from mobile : (




but back to dhoudz and him not changing their mind even after countlessly explaining what a hyperscroll is



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this is me explaining by myself what a hyperscroll is again, to dissolve the misunderstanding with dhoudz




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(sorry for mobile screenshot again)
in the message ive even sent this screenshot of my browser ai responding to the question, which still led to dhoudz making the "you use a more difficult hyperscroll method" reply at 17:41 time in the screenshot. so not changing their mind anyways.




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i (again) try to explain that he is wrong, which happens, i myself also thought i might be wrong and made the research. but turns out my conception of hyperscroll is right, so what i did wasnt hyperscrolling. and i attach a video of how such a mouse with the feature looks like




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thats me sending the video. in the end dhoudz did make a imo good reply to my message here (at 20:13) and said that what i did is considered [by the server] to be a hyperscroll. but which doesnt make sense since word definitions should be universal, if all servers call that mouse feature hyperscroll, why would it have a different meaning here. a car is a car, why would a server decide to call cars trains kind-of-situation. but i wanted something more, if thats actually what the server defines as a hyperscroll, so i searched threadposts with hyperscroll mentioned and this one where the admin Sour defines a hyperscroll exactly like its generally known, a freely spinning mousewheel.



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the situation in this one is a bit different, since this is an anti cheat flag with suspiciously high jump inputs per jump. but the word sour uses, it "indicates a hyperscroll" is beautifully done, and perfectly viable for my situation with these vent hops. i scroll my mousewheel and do jumps continuously for a second or 2 without a break, but thats also something you can do without a hyperscroll, so maybe there is people who do that and use it, but in my case that just wasnt the case i showed in the video in point 1.

and this shows the 3. point for this abuse thread, not showcasing 'abuse' but reporting what i think is a bad trait that dhoudz didnt make research about what a hyperscroll is when the ban appealer is rightfully saying that thats not what a hyperscroll is.



thats all the proof i have, as i said this is mostly just quoting my unban appeal thread but this is the proof i wanted to submit. i recommend maybe reading through the short introductions to these 3 points again to refresh what these barrages of text actual mean to show and portray, 1. as said being the false ban and abuse, and 2 and 3 reporting lack of knowledge as an admin and imo just a very bad and hard to deal trait i was shown in my appeal.

thanks for reading, the lil book, it took like 2 hours and i had dinner in between and also did other stuff but i hope every passage stayed consistent.
 

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